Posts Tagged ‘attendance’

Pastoral success…

datePosted on 14:50, October 23rd, 2008 by Bill Isaacs

As a pastor, how do you measure SUCCESS?

  • Is success measured in the number of attenders at your church this Sunday?
  • Is success measured by the financial statement of this month’s receipts?
  • Is success measured by the lack of infighting, struggle and stress?
Hardly.  In fact, one of the challenges we have as pastors is to not buy-in to the world’s system of measuring success!  It is deadly thinking and according the Paul, “unwise” to compare yourself against others for the measurement of success or even self-worth.
So, then how does one measure success? Read the rest of this entry »

Why churches don't fulfill the Great Commission (part 2)

datePosted on 15:39, September 3rd, 2008 by Bill Isaacs

“Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[a] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.”

Make Disciples

The word discipleship has HUGE baggage with it. For some it brings memories of a boring class, or workbook. For others it brings memories of a set of legalistic rules you had to follow for 8 weeks and at the end of that time you were handed a piece of paper that said you were officially a disciple. I remember when I was a teenager and I was signed up for the Tuesday night discipleship program in my youth group. At the end of the night after finishing 1/8 of our discipleship process my girlfriend and I would sneak out behind the church and do things that were not very “disciple like”  These programs and people were not wrong in their motive, and at some time or another all of us have tried to use a systematic program to make disciples, but at the end of that road we have dealt with the frustration of our people being smarter but not transformed.

Discipleship is not information download or attendance!

So what is it? How do we make disciples? Well….for me to give a systematic answer would not do you any good since those don’t work. All I can do is speak from my experiences and reading of the gospels. Read the rest of this entry »

Why Churches don't fulfill the Great Commission (part 1)

datePosted on 12:32, September 1st, 2008 by Bill Isaacs

go into all the  worldWe all know the Great Commission,

“Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[a] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.”

Jesus said this to his disciples just before he left as he was preparing them to become the future leaders of the Church. This is still the basic instruction for the Church today. There seems to be a pretty easy distinction between churches that are doing it and churches that aren’t. From a distance, we can look and identify churches that are fulfilling the instruction that God has given us, but it’s probably not some of the barometers that we normally use. Read the rest of this entry »

Ministerally Speaking; and the Southern Baptist

datePosted on 11:24, June 9th, 2008 by HB London

The following article was posted on HB London’s blog “The Heart of a Pastor“.
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I read a small article a few days ago suggesting that the Southern Baptist Church is not as large as it claims to be. Have you ever wondered about that?

“Ministerally speaking” is a phrase that is used from time-to-time to qualify a statistic used by a pastor or Christian leader to estimate the size of their congregation or ministry. There seems to be a lot of estimating going on ??? even, or should I say ‘maybe’ in the Southern Baptist Church.

Are you a Southern Baptist? What would you estimate the membership in your convention to be? Some say 16 million and others, as much as 17 million. What would you say?

I have been to a lot of Southern Baptist churches who claimed to have 26,000 members when in actuality they might have 5 or 6,000 in attendance.

Do numbers really matter? It seems so. Because if you talk to pastors for very long, they will very soon either ask you “how many do you run” or tell you how many they have.

Through the years, I am sure I have “rounded off” a lot of numbers to make myself look better. I was not technically being untruthful .. I was just “rounding off” on the high side. Nobody “rounds off” on the low side.

At the Southern Baptist Convention they will be electing a new president. Six men are running. I can remember in the old days where the leader was basically selected in the ‘back room’ and then presented to the convention for approval. Those days seem to be gone forever.

So ??? two questions I ask you my dear blogging colleague. How many members do you think there are at the Southern Baptist Convention? And, who do you think their new leader will be? A conservative or a member of the new breed? No need to be exact, just “ministerally speaking”. Round it off!

Talk to me .. please!! Consumerism can kill us!

HB London

How to go to church

datePosted on 19:58, March 31st, 2008 by Ray

Creative Commons License photo credit: Lawrence WhittemoreThe title sounds silly to us Christians. However, as a protestant, I have been more than a little confused at what I am supposed to do when I attend a Catholic wedding mass, or similar service. And, have you ever been to a religious service at another religion (Muslim, etc)? Well, it may be that some of the people in our communities are just as confused about how THEY should act in one of our services!

Rick Rusaw has written an article, “Escaping the Church ‘Donkey Syndrome‘” published on the SermonCentral website. The theme of the article is the Externally Focused Church. He defines “Four Characteristics of Externally Focused Churches.”

  • First, externally focused churches are convinced that good deeds and good news can’t and shouldn’t be separated.
  • Second, they see themselves as vital to the health and well-being of their communities.
  • Third, externally focused churches believe that ministering and serving are the normal expressions of Christian living.
  • Fourth, externally focused churches are evangelistically effective.

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Did the Easter Bunny rise up from the grave?

datePosted on 12:22, March 23rd, 2008 by Ray

Jesus Arose - not a rabbit

The way most people approach Easter, one would think that the Easter Bunny was the reason for the holiday!

Each time Easter (or Christmas, or some other Christian holiday) comes around, I am forced to question whether the commercialization of such holidays is good or bad. On the good side, commercialization equates to advertising for the holiday and the associated event which precipitated the holiday. After all, it is a HOLY-day (the true word).

But the problem now has become that it is almost against the law to celebrate the CHRISTIAN part. The “politically correct” nature of our society has attempted to eliminate any reference to Christianity from the very holiday that has evolved from it.

We are swamped with advertisements for Easter Bunny toys & candy. Easter Eggs & colorings are commonplace. However, if you want to get something that even MENTIONS the resurrection of Jesus, you had better go to the Christian Book & Gift Store. No one else has any such an article! The same thing is true about Christmas. Many school systems have told the children that they cannot speak about the birth of Jesus. And many businesses now have “Holiday Greetings” and “Holiday Sales” rather than CHRISTMAS Greetings or sales. And have you ever seen a “Resurrection Sale” at a store?

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